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Well I've used it freely and if people got offended, which they've had (because they don't know me), I've told them it's satire and they were okay with it. It's when people don't understand that it's satire that it becomes a problem. It's not hate speech when you're using it to combat the hate speech.

By your logic, Mark Twain should have never written nigger, and then a classic work of literature wouldn't have been as powerful. Yay censorship. Fight the real problem gillibean.
That doesn't answer my question. How many gays are okay with it?

And if Mark Twain used it on a regular basis like you, I'd argue with him as well.
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Your question is ridiculous though. Some people can't handle satire, some can. That's how it's been with the gay people who have dealt with me. It's not up to satire to pick who or what it offends. It's satire's job to depict civilization.

I don't use it on a regular basis either, but congrats on trying to judge me.

Just see the hate speech thread.

Why so serious?
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I'm not judging you. I'm fully aware that you don't support any of it but I object to the use of the words in every context.
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And I think that that's just making things worse. So we can just agree to disagree eh?

Edit: I just want to explain that. I don't mean not saying it makes things worse. I'd love the day to come when the word isn't used, but it just won't happen. So we gotta work with what we have.
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That's the problem with the ongoing hate speech, free speech, and censorship campaign.

I personally assist organizations fight censorship and I campaign to defend our Freedom of Speech. So - don't think I'm trying to censor anyone or stifle them from expressing themselves.

I want to take hate speech cases on a circumstantial basis. Sometimes it actually issatirical. Sometimes it isn't. In some cases it is just downright inappropriate. I'm not placing any sort of universal standard on anything here - I'm just saying that I'm keeping my eyes out for EVERYONE here at PTF - and I don't want to see anyone being offended and I also don't want to see anyone being denied expression and speech.

We'll play this by ear, and see how it goes. If you're not trying to hurt people - you'll be fine. Sound good?

By the way, Obdurate - I viewed that journal of yours...and I found no nude pictures. I'm entirely displeased with your false advertising! =P
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If you are going to allow the use of the words at all, please delete my account.
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I'm honestly not sure what to do in this situation.

I feel that the use of these words at all is wrong. But at the same time - I need to respect people's freedom. Yet at the same time I still need to allow everyone to feel comfortable.

I don't want a mess of people to leave PTF - I want this to thrive, not fall.

Please don't leave, don't delete your account - I'll make a statement about this later with my thoughts, and plan of action.

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I'll wait for your statement to decide what to do.
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Why did you stay gillibean? AJ didn't get in a huff when it was used in certain circumstances. Seeing the rules, you win, satire has been compromised.

So I'm outta here. No offense to Kovich, I can understand the reasoning. Just isn't the place for me anymore, I s'pose. Ima make a few more posts elsewhere and then poof, like Milli Vanilli's career.

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