Yeah. I thought we had a thread about this already. I know we have one on euthanasia but this is more general I guess.

So, what are your thoughts? Did you know that the argument can be made that suicide is the biggest form of revolution out there?

I believe that people should have the right to choose. Why should somebody be forced to suffer for years and years when all they want to do is end it. One quote that I've seen that is very true is "It is cruel to take away the life of something that wants to live, but even more cruel to give life to something that never wanted to live in the first place." But this is all coming from someone who attempted suicide, so of course I'm gonna support people's right to choice

If someone's life is so bad that death is better for them, and if their lives are not going to ever get better, then the right thing to do is let them. Of course, if one is an emo teen whose girlfriend/boyfriend dumped them, that's a different story. No one likes a whiner.

Why isn't getting your heart broken a good enough reason?

Because it gets better. A girlfriend/boyfriend you've had for a few years tops isn't usually true love. If they dump you, you'll get over it eventually. There are other people out there. Now if it was a spouse (that you've had longer than a week), that might be a better reason. I mean, you loves this person for so long, may have had kids with him/her, and now you lose everything. Or if a spouse dies. Or if a son/daughter dies. Not if a boy or girlfriend you've had a few months decides he/she doesn't like you all that much. that's not a lot in the long run. I think the broken heart one gets from that is just an illusion.
(Plus I'm tired of getting those damn chain emails featuring love stories that end in death because he broke up with her. A surprising amount of chain letters is just that.)

But maybe a boyfriend/girlfriend you've had for a few years WAS true love, you loved her/him, and he/she broke your heart because he/she didn't feel the same way. And maybe you've had a huge history of this. Maybe things like this never go right for you. Believe it or not, but some people feel that heart break is worse than death. And the argument can definitely be made.

I think suicide is for conformist people who want things the easy way.

I've not yet had a girlfriend, let alone lost one. And anyway, if they don't feel the same way, why is death better? I think they feel bad for a while, so they decide they would rather die, when the feelings are only temporary. At any rate, I think one needs a damn good reason before deciding to kill themselves. A reason beyond losing teenage love.

Teenage love is a stupid term just like teenage angst. When you get your heart broken it stays with you, you don't escape what happens to you in your life. You can pretend to but you don't, even if it's only subconsciously, it weighs on you. People feel the same things, no matter what age, but they handle it differently. Stress from school may end up being stress from work. You can get your heart broken at 60 if you want. S'why teenage love/angst doesn't exist.
The teenage love you refer to is "liking somebody but thinking you love" and "lust." Doesn't really matter though cuz if you feel you love someone, who can tell you otherwise?

It's true that maybe time will tell you that you didn't love them but how do you know until that happens?

With your logic, the feelings of losing your mother is only temporary too. And with the logic I'm using, heart break is one damn good reason to kill yourself. Once you've lost the will to live, no matter what reason, it's one damn good reason. But the truth is, most people won't kill themselves over getting their heart broken once, it'll be things adding up. Most people won't kill themselves because of one problem, anyways. It's usually things adding up.
But I'll wait for you to fall in love...


Edit: And how, Desi, is it conformist?

well for example here in Lima I read on the newspapers:

Woman kills herself because she didn't have money to feed kids.
Man kills wife and then commits suicide because she was cheating on him.
and stuff like that... I mean, if I don't have money to feed my kids, I go leave them with my mom or someone for a while and then go get a JOB, cuz everyone is good at something.
If my husband or bf is cheating on me, I won't kill myself even if I loved him so much and what he did breaks my heart, I will just move on because do you think it is worth dying because of someone who obviously doesn't love you? That's lame...
There is a solution for EVERYTHING, except death of course.