An all fruit diet is the only diet that does not harm anything. Since you appear to be so concerned about the welfare of plants, Knoxbox, I highly suggest you try that. I hear it can be very healthy.

If everyone ate fruit, no living thing would be killed, but fewer trees would be born unless we threw the cores away or the seeds in some form. If we just threw them away, we'd eventually run short on trees.

Wildlife management and experts all over the country have concluded that hunting is essential to eco-system balances.

I'd like for some of you metro-sexuals to go tell a farmer who has seen his crop devastated by herds of deer that he cannot hunt and kill deer to thin the herd and help manage his farm and put food on his table and make an decent living.

I'd also like to ask a few of you if you ever owned a gun or taken the time to stalk wildlife and experienced the reward of taking an animal you worked hard to kill for food and sport.

Pansy?? LMFAO!
Get your arse out in the woods or in a blind at 4am or walking through waist deep marsh in a wooded area full of the wonder of life and shoot a deer from a position of 200 yards away that you busted your arse to get in a position for, and then tell me how pansy it is.

And the next time you're enjoying that fish or a steak, think about how it got on your table.
It's not majic...it's the majic of the food chain.

If everyone ate fruit, there would have to be a whole lot more trees.

Not pansy, sadistic.

Fish farms and slaughterhouses, you mean? I think it's okay to hunt for food. I do. Don't overdue it, but it's better to eat real meat than that crap that comes from animals that were born and raised to eat and probably pumped full of steroids. Fishing for food on your own is better, too. Only thing I ever caught, though, was a skate-fish, and that didn't look to appetizing. I find it kind of barbaric to jam a hook into something's mouth, suspend them in the air where they can't breath by it, and let them go, but I still do it. If you are having problems with deer eating your crops, build a fence and still go out to hunt food. Then you won't have any trouble from them and you'll still get to eat them (or leave them alone and eat the foxes that burrow underneath, assuming foxes do that, and assuming you have something that foxes want).

a agree, all i was getting as is vegans cannot continue to use this sentient being BS because fact of the matter is we don't know if a plant can or cannot feel paint, because they are different from us maybe they do not need a central nervous system... but i can't help but think they have some type of emotion as they bloom and turn to the sun for food and nutrient and if depraved of such they wilt and die. thats body language to me... body language is used as a form of communication and ways of showing emotion...

I think that's just a reaction. How come our hearts beat faster when we run? How come we breathe? The wilting probably has to do with a lack of energy from the sun/water in which photosynthesis can't happen. The cells might dry out and fold in from pressure. And what changes if they do have emotions and can think (which is still unlikely)? That makes vegetarians (because the word vegan bothers me, like some kind of classless slang) horrible people just like us normal people. Still, things eat other things. Fruit is good, but who's to say fruit does not also feel pain? It bruises if smacked around.

Plants wilt for a variety of reasons. NONE of which has anything to do with feelings. All the studies that have been done aren't Plants do not have central nervous systems. It doesn't even matter whether they have emotions or not. Eating only plants is a much less cruel approach. Many less plants and no animals die.

YOUR STILL KILLING PLANTS>> KILLING SOMETHING, that is ALIVE. no matter how you look at it.. its still death, you can't cover it up and say the plant didn't feel it... you don't know that it didn't feel it and they can't scientifically prove that it doesn't feel it, when you cut a tree it bleeds not blood but sap, still hurts the tree. same with plants. if you read my link u'd also see the plants react.. this is an action a even at its core.. still a reaction.. venus fly trap or example... pitcher plant... we can go on and name more that spit poisonous barbs when they feel threatened... <notice FEEL threatened, but vegans can come off and say, its OKAY, its not a sentient being... RIIGHT if that lets you sleep at night thats fine... point is one way or another, you don't know 100% like i've said before if it does or not... maybe you believe in reincarnation and because you ate plants your whole life you come back as one and realize oh shit this hurts as you get pulled form the ground then leaf by leaf your plucked and feed to humans... tell me how this is any different than killing an animal, why because an animal can make a sound that its way of saying Ouch? im not against killing animals just pointing out your basis for not eating meat is invalid in my opinion, cause like i said and you even agreed in earlier pages, truth is we just don't know, you yourself said your opinion might change if we ever found out otherwise.

every page i have read is scientifically to date we "believe" plants don't feel... belief is not fact.