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You are absolutely right AJ. It's the individual person's decision for when they are ready to die. No one should tell them otherwise or force them into continuing on when they don't want to do so.
What happens when they wish to die but are incapable of doing so themselves?
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If their wishes are expressed in a will of just about any type, my hope is that assistance that will end their life and their suffering can be implemented.
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What happens when they wish to die but are incapable of doing so themselves?
That's why there are doctors to help with that. Legal assisted suicide generally consists of an injection by a doctor, I've never heard of a legal case where the person did it themselves.
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this comes down to what you believe in... fate or faith.... ironically enough they are fairly similar... i'd like to say i believe in faith... because thats gives me free choice... yet the bible says there is a plan for everyone so ultimately even though you think your making your own decisions your going to end up in the same place after you make the one and only true decision you have (assuming your religious) outside of that, i think even atheist think they have a purpose... not just to exist correct me if im wrong... so if you have a purpose you still don't have free will... cause ultimately you will be lead to that purpose one way or another... your choices just determine how long it takes you to get there.

so all in all... assisted suicide... your going to die... and the way you die if your religious if its your time to go its your time to go... assisted or not... if its not your time u'll survive.
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Atheists don't believe that they are designated a purpose because they don't believe in a creator. They don't believe in a spiritual realm or divinity.
They believe that the universe and everything in it simply happened and has evolved by random selection and mutation.
My question for them has always been... "Where did energy and matter originate"?

Christians have faith in God. It's their feeling that God's will be done when we are born and when we die.
They have historical witness,scripture and an overwhelming feeling that "there must be more" to reinforce their faith.
Even though I sometimes struggle with my faith, I cannot accept the alternative that there isn't a creator and a divine will.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a matter of faith for both believers and non-believers.
Man's intellect can only take us so far, regardless of how smart he/she thinks they are.
I don't believe in all the fire and brimstone so I reject any notion that a loving God would condemn a man for wanting to die and end their suffering.

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Atheists don't believe that they are designated a purpose because they don't believe in a creator. They don't believe in a spiritual realm or divinity.
They believe that the universe and everything in it simply happened and has evolved by random selection and mutation.
My question for them has always been... "Where did energy and matter originate"?

Christians have faith in God. It's their feeling that God's will be done when we are born and when we die.
They have historical witness,scripture and an overwhelming feeling that "there must be more" to reinforce their faith.
Even though I sometimes struggle with my faith, I cannot accept the alternative that there isn't a creator and a divine will.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a matter of faith for both believers and non-believers.
Man's intellect can only take us so far, regardless of how smart he/she thinks they are.
I don't believe in all the fire and brimstone so I reject any notion that a loving God would condemn a man for wanting to die and end their suffering.
I say i'm an atheist but really it's closer to agnostic. I do think there is probably a spiritual realm and something to the effect of einstein's god or the buddhist concept of a mental energy that has always existed in the universe which probably also alway existed. There is extremely little evidence(if any) for all of this which is why I only say these things probably exist.
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For me I'm on the fence on this because its not natural no matter what. Then, its good if the person rather be done with the sufferin or something those lines.
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I believe everyone has a purpose in life. I'm an atheist. Just because you have a purpose doesn't mean it's a set purpose. And yet again we digress. I think euthanasia should be allowed for people who are suffering from a terminal illness and wish to die quickly without needing to do it themselves. It's just ethical. Death is not the enemy, suffering is.
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utside of that, i think even atheist think they have a purpose... not just to exist correct me if im wrong...
Whoops I cut off the o in outside when I copied that. Oh well...yeah I don't believe in a creator but I do think that life has meaning. We have our own purposes and we decide where our lives go. I want to be a writer, but not full time. I don't really know what I'll take up as a main means of support. That is my purpose as I see it now. Still, though, if I am in pain and I have a terminal illness I've already lived through as much life as I can experience and as long as there is no chance to survive why go on? If I am ever faced with that choice I don't know what I would do, but everyone should at least have the right to choose that.

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Atheists don't believe that they are designated a purpose because they don't believe in a creator.
I suppose I don't believe I was designated a purpose, but I still have one that I chose for myself. I just said that but as I read down a page I mark out the things I want to quote and respond to.
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My question for them has always been... "Where did energy and matter originate"?
I have no idea. Maybe there is a creator of matter and energy, but I don't think that if there is we have any idea what this creating factor is.

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evolved by random selection and mutation.
Natural selection isn't random. It wasn't an accident if you believe in evolution. The things that were fit to survive did and that brought on changes that took a few billion years to spread out into the variety there is today.

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I don't believe in all the fire and brimstone so I reject any notion that a loving God would condemn a man for wanting to die and end their suffering.
Yeah I don't get why one mistake in one lifetime would ever decide your eternity as bliss or torment.

Well that's about it. See you all later when you've made further posts.
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thanks for clearing that up for me
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