I haven't read it all, no, I won't lie, but I've read parts and I've read about. I went to church/Sunday School for most of my life, and I am technically "confirmed" into the church (which is an odd word to use), which took I don't know how long to do. I think a year.

I try not to wish death on people and I believe we should love each other. You haven't convinced me that you don't treat it as dogma, however. My point is, if you can read even the ten commandments and not see where some of them offer no room for compromise, then there's something wrong.

God gives us the right? I really don't see that as much of a defense when I'm giving pretty precise reasons why eating animals is wrong. But this will go nowheres, I can tell. So whatever.

Abortion after like 6 months is shit, but when pregnancy has just started, they're basically parasites anyways. So if you abort early, you're aborting a parasite. Technically speaking.

Yeah but after the baby starts to breath, thats when it's to late. I think that the only way a person should have the right to not have the baby is if the reason for it is that the person got raped, then thats another story.

Sorry for the double post but Pro-choice. Come on the woman shouldn't have had sex if she knew they were going to have a baby. Not i'm pregnant and I don't want to be a mother so i''ll go with abortion(no sir that is not right).

Well, only God and I know what I believe and only God and you know what you believe for sure so I guess that's all that matters. I'm sorry I thought you didn't believe in God. I misunderstood what you meant that that "saddens" you, but I got it now.

That was the least technical thing I've heard (well, in this thread at least). The formation starts with one cell formed from a sperm cell and an egg cell. That one single cell has all the DNA that that baby will ever have. DNA is what makes a person [unique] and when you abort a baby at any stage in the pregnancy, you are essentially killing a future person.

A future person, yes, obviously.

Fetus: The unborn offspring from the end of the 8th week after conception (when the major structures have formed) until birth. Up until the eighth week, the developing offspring is called an embryo.

It's a blob that feeds off of its mother. I don't know, man, strikes me as parasitic.
More backup (2002 but still, argued very well):
When does an embryo become a person? | Human Quest | Find Articles at BNET.com
The first few paragraphs are a nice summary. Actually the first page is pretty good.

But here, anyways, cuz I'm bored:Parasite: an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.

So don't you dare tell me that I'm not being technical Mr. when I call it a parasite, because it's a textbook definition, right there.

Every sperm cell is a baby, is what you're saying, uh oh, I've killed A LOT of babies.

Edit: Can we move on now? You got caught up on me calling it a parasite.

where do babys come from?

Well I don't know where babys come from but I'll tell you where babies does.
Drop the y and add ies
HO HO HO.

Hi Brandon.

First of all, your definition of parasite is incorrect. A parasite is OF A DIFFERENT SPECIES than that of the host.

Anyway...NO, I never said every SPERM cell or every EGG cell is a life. It's when they combine is when you have a life. Sperm cells only have 23 chromosomes. It takes 46 to make a human life (that's where the egg comes in, with the other 23 chromosomes) In other words, jerk it all you want.

Haha. Nice.

Okay AJ, I copied the wrong definition.
A person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

You could argue that an embryo and a living, breathing human are two different things/species anyways, but we won't go there because I gave you another definition.

You think killing future people is wrong and any of my sperm cells could become a future person.

My opinion still stands.

Edit: And I'm done debating whether or not it's a parasite so someone else come in and say if you're pro-choice or whatever so this thread can go on.

Sperm cells alone do not make a person. Like I said, it's when the sperm cell and the egg cell join is when the person is first formed.

My opinion still stands as well. Abortion at any stage in pregnancy is wrong.