Sorry, I put an accidental and in there, because I was checking to see if I spelled the rest of it right.

First of all, that was what most people have said back to me, and that is why I said it.

Second of all, a person has every right to be selfish with themselves, especially when it comes to being put in harms way. Say what you will, but I am sure you have no clue how hard child birth is, especially for younger women.And neither do I, but I am sure it sucks, hard. Suppose that this woman would grow to be a very responsible and important person, but this is a complicated pregnancy and she dies giving birth to a child she didn't want, in that case she won't be. However when this baby grows it becomes a crackhead, or something else that is unacceptable, what was that compromise worth?

But no god has a plan for everyone!!! Well if that is the case then everyone would have to obey this plan, because that is what a plan is. Especially if this plan is destined to work.

No, you don't have to obey His plan. That's what free will is. He gives everyone the opportunity to follow His plan, but it's completely up to them.

OK, so the mother has a small chance of complications from pregnancy. Big whoop. There is a much better chance that the child will grow up to be a contribution to society and to make loving parents happy than to make the mother die. And it's not like abortion doesn't have any health risks. Look up post abortion syndrome. Abortion is also known to cause: bladder injury, bowel injury, breast cancer, ectopic pregnancy, failed abortion, hemorrhage, hepatitis, infection, laceration of the cervix, more miscarriages later, perforation of the uterus, placenta previa, retained products of conception, RH incompatibility, and severe rapid bleeding. See: Before you choose abortion - Heritage House Literature..

The fact is that abortion is just flat out wrong any way you look at it. Even if the mother doesn't care about the baby or it's future life, she's putting herself at high risk.

How can you follow a plan when you don't know what this plan is? It is not even implied! Not everyone has devine interventions.

Now you're saying that I am wrong because there are small chances of a complication in pregnancy? Even though there are just as small chances of a complicated abortion?

Honestly, she is putting her social life at high risk if she gets pregnant too.

And on a less serious note: It helps with overpopulation issues.

You know what your plan is if you believe and pray to God.

Let's assume that the risks of birth and the risks of abortion are about equal; maybe birth has a slightly higher risk. Obviously birth is the way to go... I mean...abortion? Did you know that on DAY 1 of pregnancy, all of the inherited features of the new individual are already set in stone (or more accurately - set in cell)? Whether it's a girl or boy, color of the hair, dimples, etc. When a woman has an abortion, she is destroying an individual.

Social issues? I would think that she would have bigger social issues is friends found out about the abortion.

And we don't have overpopulation issues. From the abortion facts website:

Well let me say this, this is not a thread about god, it is about abortion. Looking at facts a lot of stuff you have said is pointless.

Did you know that on Day 1 of a pregnancy the woman who is pregnant already is a living breathing, growing organism? One that can think? Who has all of its inherited features too? A cell or what have you call it is what can be not what is, yet.

Yeah because friends want their parents to see their friends pregnant. It will totally help that kid keep a freindship with another!

OK, well I have my beliefs and you have yours. The difference is that mine are moral and make sense.

Don't call something immoral if you disagree with it! I believe in god, but not what you say about abortion. I don't want babies to die, okay, but I think that in some cases it should be an option.


I'd like to hear what you think about gay rights.

No, I call things immoral that, hmmm, involve killing a person...and things that go against the Bible, which I believe in strongly.

Homosexuality has already been covered by me. Do some searching.

What a surprise, I completely disagree with your opinion on gays too.