look at the games available on the wii, have any of them needed it... it was the nintendo ceo himself that said this... and you did misunderstand i didn't say the graphics were superior to the other systems i merly said that they have not tapped into the full capabilities of the wii.. i mentions nothing about them being better or worse than a 360 or ps3... so yet agian you misunderstand.

I'm confused on what you mean by what games actually need good graphics.

Every game that goes out into the market is there for one reason. To sell as many copies as they can. Why wouldn't a game developer use the best possible graphics to please the audience with stunning visual effects?

There's no game out there that needs graphics. They use them because they are available. With limited availability of graphics, comes limited graphics. Thus, the Wii.

And I feel certain the CEO of Nintendo wouldn't say that the games available to the Wii are all sub-par (graphically) to the actual games that could be produced.

the wii is about gameplay.. not stunning graphics... they can produce stunning graphics but no game has needed them yet..

take a game like colin mcrea dirt they used way more graphics than was actually needed and there is hardly a system (pc) out there that can run the game the way it was intended to be run...

i'm really starting to feel like im talking to a brick wall cause your not seeing what im getting at and if you are then it sure dont' seem like it... the ceo of nintendo was not saying the games were subpar, just saying the games didn't need to use the full potential to achieve the effect they needed for the gameplay.

rather than argue this point let me just say i think u'll be suprised at some of the games being released in 2008... and i think that graphically will be as mesmerizing as its competition on the 360 or ps3.

No they won't be. That's ridiculous.

I know for a fact Danger knows that the wii is about gameplay but you're sitting here saying that the graphics will be on par with the 360 and PS3 and they just won't be. The wii doesn't have the power that those systems have because Nintendo went in a different direction (which is fine, who's knocking it?)

No system reaches it's full potential until later. Look at any system and you'll see how as time goes on, companies become better at developing games for each specific system. Take PS2 for example. Look at early PS2 games and then look at Metal Gear Solid 3 or Final Fantasy XII (I think it's XII, isn't it... the latest one on PS2). The 360 and PS3 haven't reached THEIR full potential either.

Sure, games will look good on the Wii (they do now), but to say they'll reach the same caliber, graphic wise, as the competition? That's pushing it.

As I said before, the wii will never see a game of mammoth design like a metal gear solid 4, and that's a bit of a downfall as a whole, even though I realize that the Wii is meant to be something else. Making a system more powerful can't be a flaw, and like I said earlier, I'd shell out an extra 100 bucks for a more powerful wii.

P.S. I actually love the Wii for what it is and Smash Bros has me pumped. I wanna play No More Heroes as well. But I'm not crazy enough to say the Wii will match the other systems in graphics.

Edit: I also remember hearing someone from Nintendo say that the system is only a little more powerful than the Gamecube.

okay lets go out on a limb here... can you tell the difference with your eye the difference between 720p or 1080p or can you see the difference between 720i or 1080i? i don't truely think the human eye can see the difference... you can only get so good with graphics before any more power is just not noticable. framerates can only get so high before its the framerate at which the eye can handle.

lets look at a game that is on all three systems.. or better yet all 3 systems and the pc...

take nfs prostreet, are the graphics noticably different from system to system? i dont know... i have played it for pc and for wii... gameplay is different but is graphics different... i'll have to test this out... maybe i will be the one that is suprised.

and i didn't say the wii graphics would compare to the 360 or ps3 until my last post, but i wasn't really saying it would compare just saying u'd be just as mesmerized... i think peopel will be shocked at how well games will look once it has progressed like you said in yoru post obdurate.

well wii seems to be really cool. and i think many people are interested on it. and even old people are interested or are using wii too cause they are really good physically unlike other gadgets that only involves your fingers in playing.

[/quote]I also remember hearing someone from Nintendo say that the system is only a little more powerful than the Gamecube.[/quote]


The game cube processor is about 350 mhz and the Wii is about 750, it's like double the power, the PS2 only has like a 200mhz, and the PS3 has like a 3.2 ghz processor, I wonder which system in the long run will be more powerful?

Yea its pretty relative. You can say the Wii is only a little more powerful than the gamecube if you take into account the major change from PS2 to PS3.

Did I not tell you not to do that?

You don't ask for a picture but then you continue to argue the point, so then a picture becomes necessary.

And besides, you don't tell me what to do.