Originally Posted by Obdurate

The whole layout is the SNES controller, but they added some joysticks and a couple extra shoulder buttons and maybe changed the shape a bit (though honestly it's really similar). Along with what you said, changing A, B,etc to O, X, etc.

Definitely improved, but fundamentally similar.

Originally Posted by Obdurate

Considering the wii, N64 and gamecube controllers are different from one another (though GC has the most similarities with the SNES), it's not hard to say that Sony could have been more creative with their controllers. Hell, even now Sony wanted to rip off the wii remote with motion sensor.

The N64 controller was easy to understand and the N64 was around at the same time as the PS.

I don't see why it's so difficult to believe that Sony, while they did many things better than Nintendo, didn't make an "original" controller. And they're not an original company when it comes to video games either, though they do make solid systems. It's amazing how I make a statement like that as a small point and it gets blown up into a big point.

And it wasn't you.

I can't believe I have to do this again, but there's a picture attached. And with that said, if you still can't see it then I'm done with this.

Originally Posted by knoxbox

i disagree its been proven time and time agian that the wii has alot better hardware and graphics cards than the games show... according to nintendo no third party gaming company has actually touched the power the wii can actually do. here is the thing nintendo is notorious for doing cartoon games yanno nothing realistic looking... if one third party company would actually tap into the power of the wii i think u'd see alot more support for it... imagine a MMORPG played through the wii with maybe voicechat instead of typing... imagine going into batter as a warrior using the wiimote as your sword nunchuck as your shield or maybe a mage and use the wiimote as your want imagine the possibilities of spells you could do... depending on power words you said or how you moved the wiimote to come off with a spell. i just really think someone needs to tap into the possibilities wiht this console. a lil more third party game support and wii would dominate and desimate all.

they all have their nitch...

wii for the fun family games
360 for the online play
ps3 for the graphics

Originally Posted by Danger

Yea theres no way the Wii comes close to capabilities in graphics when it comes to the 360 or the PS3. No matter how much you want to argue about "tapping into its capabilities", the Wii was designed with playability, not graphics, in mind.

With that said, except for the added expense of Xbox Live, and the reliability issues that come with the 360, I'd have to say the 360 beats the other two. The price for the 360 is quite adequate for a gaming system, and not that behind graphically when compared to the PS3. The 360 has HD capabilities, so it still does look amazing when hooked up to a good TV.

@ Obdurate... does your Xbox have 3 Red Lights? Microsoft did recently push its Warranty for 3 red lights to 3 years. All you have to do is call them, they'll send you a box, you mail it to you, and they'll either fix it or send you a new one.

Originally Posted by knoxbox

i feel you misunderstood what i was getting at NO ONE has tapped into the capabilities of the wii.. meaning it can go graphically farther than anyone has yet to see... i wasn't saying that it couldn't touch the xbox or ps3 in graphics i was saying quite the opposite if the right third party company comes along and actually uses the graphics card in the wii to its full potential i think everyone would be very very supprised.