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bud · #1 06-29-08, 07:16 PM

Creation vs. evolution:
Creation= Intelligent Designer=all existence is planned.
Evolution=random selection=innumerable atomic and sub-atomic accidents.
Science is not exclusive to either evolutionists or creationists.
Evolution=presently considered by a perceived (since it can not be determined either way) majority as the truth. This change in perception can be attributed, in large part, to the work of Charles Darwin in the mid 19th century, Albert Einstein in the 20th century, and many other scientists past and present. A main tenet of evolutionists is that science and creationism are incompatible.
Creation=with the exception of ancient Greeks who considered science an intellectual exercise, not a practical application, from around 600 B.C., science originated in the 16th-17th century A.D.. A main tenet is that science is a means of identifying the creator. Here are some examples:
Francis Bacon- considered the father of modern science---said “There are two books on which we should read. One was Scripture, the other the book of nature.”
Johannes Kepler- Celestial Mechanics --- said scientists are “thinking God’s thoughts after Him.”
Sir Isaac Newton, arguably the greatest scientist of all time,-calculus and dynamics--- is quoted as saying…”this most beautiful system of sun, planets, and comets could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being. This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all and account of His Dominion He is wont* to be called Lord God.” And,
“Atheism is so senseless. When I look at the solar system, I see the earth at the right distance from the sun to receive the proper amounts of heat and light. This did not happen by chance.”
Other creation believing scientists include:
Louis Pasteur- bacteriology.
Lord Kelvin-energetics
Blaise Pascal-hydrostatics
Charles Babbage-computer science
Lord Joseph Lister-antiseptic surgery
Robert Boyle-chemistry
James Simpson-anesthesiology
Samuel Morse-telegraphy
Belief doctrines for the beginning of all existence:
Creationists believe in the formation of all things by The Almighty God, in 6 literal days.
Evolutionists currently believe that nothing exploded nothing else, nowhere, thus the big bang created all that exists. This belief should be left open to change based on future scientific discoveries.

* From Wikipedia, in the list of commonly misused English words:
Won't is a contraction for "will not", while wont is a rare, slightly archaic word meaning "accustomed" or "inclined to" (as an adjective) or "habit or custom" (as a noun).

Hatchet · #2 06-29-08, 08:10 PM

Shut the fuck up already.

We literally have nothing else to talk about on this forum, eh?

gillibean · #3 06-29-08, 09:43 PM

Apparently not! Let's talk about ways to get McCain elected instead!

Obdurate · #4 06-29-08, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatchet

Shut the fuck up already.

We literally have nothing else to talk about on this forum, eh?

S'why I don't post here much.

thexfactor · #5 07-01-08, 09:06 AM

well u know he has an opinion 2

Ich_Bin_Butler · #6 07-02-08, 10:12 AM

The problem with the logic is that creationists look around and say, "This did not happen by accident. Therefore, the Christian God created it."

I don't care how many smart people believe in creation. There are smart people on both sides. That's why there are still two sides. Also, you, like so many others, talk about evolution like it was an accident. The actual system plays out so that life adapts and becomes better suited to living here. As for stars and planets, they had trillions of years to start up before the atoms making up Earth came close to each other. I mean, what the hell is this random selection and sub-atomic accidents? Whoops, those atoms just collided and humans were born.

In addition, I know why you made the thread, but keep it to the goddamned creation vs. evolution thread so that Obdurate and Hatchet can avoid it. Don't provoke them. Yes, you want to state your opinion, and yes, we're all sick of the subject. We're meeting in the middle.

Also, how the hell does it work out that because the universe is cool, it was the god that you were brought up to believe in that created everything with the sole objective to create and love humanity? I could just as easily say:

"I am a creationist. I believe that a supreme being of unknown nature created matter and energy (how that supreme being could exist before then and what must have created it isn't important because it makes no sense) and then that being directed the laws of nature until, after an obscene amount of time, life began of a planet and mutated and evolved until it became all these damn things."

thexfactor · #7 07-02-08, 10:16 AM

i'm all with ich on this one cus i also have the same opinion

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