E.T., is he out there somewhere or is it all just a fairy tale?

I'm going to quote myself off of a thread I made a few days ago on another forum. I actually created a thread with this very name! It's a little creepy.

Keep this in mind: whether it be a rock or a grain of sand, in water, they both sink.
-Oldboy

I don't think that they'd look exactly like us, Butler. That wouldn't be any fun. I do however believe in extra terrestrials. I've happened to seen a few UFO's in my time...kinda humbling.

If you're really into UFO shit, you should check out The Disclosure Project. It's a bunch of ex-CIA, FBI, Military personal who are all willing to testify under oath to the existence of extra terrestrial life. Some of they're stories are pretty intense. The one that always comes to mind is outside of a nuclear war head plant. Two glowing orbs appeared at the gate, sending the base into a panic, obviously. Somehow, these orbs managed to completely deactivate the war heads inside the base, and then just took off. If that isn't a sign...then I don't know what is.


Matter of fact, I think I made a thread on The Disclosure Project here before.


To sum it up..Yes, I believe in alien life.

I tend to disbelieve that extra terrestrials live within close proximity to Planet Earth, but I do acknowledge the likeliness of other living things.

Sure, IF we were created by some chance of a sequence of events that might be such a small fraction of a percent statistically, that doesn't mean its impossible to happen twice, or even more than that. If the universe is ever expanding, that means theres unlimited opportunities for the very same sequence to happen, with maybe slightly different results.

Infinite space x 0.0000000000000001% = Infinity. Atleast that's the way I think about it.

Who says the aliens are carbon based beings as we are? What if they're hit the next plane of evolution and are now just spirit? What if they're trying to help us reach that level?

That's what I was trying to say, although I probably worded it incorrectly.

Any sequence of events that leads to any form of life has to have a small chance of happening, otherwise we would have discovered (to the publics knowledge) other life by now.

The point is, with so much space out there, no matter what kind of life, it has to be out there.

Statistically, every possibility is equal. Life happened once and given enough time, it's a mathematical fact that it will happen again. It seems unlikely to us because we are looking at it from the wrong perspective. All we can see from our point in the universe is places where there isn't life right now. That means absolutely nothing. It's the same as an infant believing that objects do not exist when they don't see them. Our technology is still so limited, we can't even begin to really say what is or isn't likely outside our planet.

The idea that other life forms couldn't exist in certain conditions seems very ignorant to me. All we know is what we've learned from 1 case study. Imagine a psychologist saying that because 1 person has traits a b and c but not d or e , its impossible that anyone else to have traits d or e and people can't exist without a, b, and c. They'd be run out of the profession! The scientific equivilant shouldn't be taken as absolute fact.

On the personal side, I love the idea that somewhere in the universe there is life. It's incredibly unlikely that we'll find it in my lifetime so I can meet them but I can dream I haven't read much about the UFO accounts, eyewitness accounts, etc but the subject is fascinating.

If you ask Stephen Hawking or Albert Einstein, the universe is finite. Whether is truly is or whether there are other factors we don't know affecting their calculations, who knows.

Who says they were carbon based to be with? What about nitrogen or oxygen or elements we haven't discovered yet. Who says they would even have a physical body?

Exactly. That's what I meant.

Look, it's clear we need some answers here.

There are in fact aliens because I AM one.

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