PureTalkForum debate & discussion forum  

Go Back   PureTalkForum debate & discussion forum > Debates & Discussion > Science & Technology



Extraterrestrial Life

This is a discussion on Extraterrestrial Life within the Science & Technology forums, part of the Debates & Discussion category; E.T., is he out there somewhere or is it all just a fairy tale?...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-04-08, 01:33 PM
gillibean's Avatar
Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 454
Thanks: 50
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
gillibean is on a distinguished road
Default Extraterrestrial Life

E.T., is he out there somewhere or is it all just a fairy tale?

Last edited by gillibean; 04-04-08 at 01:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-04-08, 02:32 PM
Ich_Bin_Butler's Avatar
[Contact AJ for custom title]
7 Highscores
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,013
Thanks: 20
Thanked 37 Times in 34 Posts
Ich_Bin_Butler is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

I'm going to quote myself off of a thread I made a few days ago on another forum. I actually created a thread with this very name! It's a little creepy.

Quote:
So let's hear your opinions on life outside of Earth. I personally see a few possibilities:

Firstly, you don't really need water to have life. According to the Gaia Theory, Earth's first bacteria didn't have water but got their nutrients with chemosynthesis, their own byproducts putting water vapor into the atmosphere. That's right: you're drinking ancient bacteria piss. That's all that is. . Anyway, all that's needed to make organic molecules and protobacteria, it's been proven, is carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen (CHON). So I figure it's likely that there is at least primitive life somewhere else. If the universe ends somewhere or doubles back on itself, this is the most likely possibility.

My other thought is that is the universe goes on forever, it is scientifically impossible that there is no life elsewhere. In fact, anything possible ought to be occurring somewhere at any given time. Somewhere out there, if the universe is infinite, an alien that looks exactly like me is typing these exact words to people exactly like you. And at an infinite amount of other places, the same thing is happening but maybe with slight variations. Such thinking is a little scary, really. It is fascinating, though. So the next time you think you are alone, remember that there's probably another guy on another planet that looks exactly like you and has the same problems.

Well, I could be wrong, but that is what I think about it.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-04-08, 03:43 PM
Hatchet's Avatar
Post Whore

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 698
Thanks: 8
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Hatchet is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Hatchet
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

I don't think that they'd look exactly like us, Butler. That wouldn't be any fun. I do however believe in extra terrestrials. I've happened to seen a few UFO's in my time...kinda humbling.

If you're really into UFO shit, you should check out The Disclosure Project. It's a bunch of ex-CIA, FBI, Military personal who are all willing to testify under oath to the existence of extra terrestrial life. Some of they're stories are pretty intense. The one that always comes to mind is outside of a nuclear war head plant. Two glowing orbs appeared at the gate, sending the base into a panic, obviously. Somehow, these orbs managed to completely deactivate the war heads inside the base, and then just took off. If that isn't a sign...then I don't know what is.


Matter of fact, I think I made a thread on The Disclosure Project here before.


To sum it up..Yes, I believe in alien life.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-04-08, 03:55 PM
Danger's Avatar
Post Whore
4 Highscores
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Your Local Street Corner
Posts: 617
Thanks: 8
Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts
Danger is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Danger
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

I tend to disbelieve that extra terrestrials live within close proximity to Planet Earth, but I do acknowledge the likeliness of other living things.

Sure, IF we were created by some chance of a sequence of events that might be such a small fraction of a percent statistically, that doesn't mean its impossible to happen twice, or even more than that. If the universe is ever expanding, that means theres unlimited opportunities for the very same sequence to happen, with maybe slightly different results.

Infinite space x 0.0000000000000001% = Infinity. Atleast that's the way I think about it.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-04-08, 04:02 PM
Hatchet's Avatar
Post Whore

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 698
Thanks: 8
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Hatchet is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Hatchet
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

Who says the aliens are carbon based beings as we are? What if they're hit the next plane of evolution and are now just spirit? What if they're trying to help us reach that level?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-04-08, 04:04 PM
Danger's Avatar
Post Whore
4 Highscores
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Your Local Street Corner
Posts: 617
Thanks: 8
Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts
Danger is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Danger
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

That's what I was trying to say, although I probably worded it incorrectly.

Any sequence of events that leads to any form of life has to have a small chance of happening, otherwise we would have discovered (to the publics knowledge) other life by now.

The point is, with so much space out there, no matter what kind of life, it has to be out there.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-04-08, 04:10 PM
gillibean's Avatar
Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 454
Thanks: 50
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
gillibean is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

Statistically, every possibility is equal. Life happened once and given enough time, it's a mathematical fact that it will happen again. It seems unlikely to us because we are looking at it from the wrong perspective. All we can see from our point in the universe is places where there isn't life right now. That means absolutely nothing. It's the same as an infant believing that objects do not exist when they don't see them. Our technology is still so limited, we can't even begin to really say what is or isn't likely outside our planet.

The idea that other life forms couldn't exist in certain conditions seems very ignorant to me. All we know is what we've learned from 1 case study. Imagine a psychologist saying that because 1 person has traits a b and c but not d or e , its impossible that anyone else to have traits d or e and people can't exist without a, b, and c. They'd be run out of the profession! The scientific equivilant shouldn't be taken as absolute fact.

On the personal side, I love the idea that somewhere in the universe there is life. It's incredibly unlikely that we'll find it in my lifetime so I can meet them but I can dream I haven't read much about the UFO accounts, eyewitness accounts, etc but the subject is fascinating.

If you ask Stephen Hawking or Albert Einstein, the universe is finite. Whether is truly is or whether there are other factors we don't know affecting their calculations, who knows.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-04-08, 04:13 PM
gillibean's Avatar
Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 454
Thanks: 50
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
gillibean is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatchet View Post
Who says the aliens are carbon based beings as we are? What if they're hit the next plane of evolution and are now just spirit? What if they're trying to help us reach that level?
Who says they were carbon based to be with? What about nitrogen or oxygen or elements we haven't discovered yet. Who says they would even have a physical body?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-04-08, 10:44 PM
Hatchet's Avatar
Post Whore

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 698
Thanks: 8
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Hatchet is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Hatchet
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillibean View Post
Who says they were carbon based to be with? What about nitrogen or oxygen or elements we haven't discovered yet. Who says they would even have a physical body?
Exactly. That's what I meant.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-04-08, 10:49 PM
Obdurate's Avatar
[Contact AJ for custom title]
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,271
Thanks: 15
Thanked 35 Times in 31 Posts
Obdurate has a reputation beyond reputeObdurate has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Extraterrestrial Life

Look, it's clear we need some answers here.

There are in fact aliens because I AM one.
__________________
"A purpose of human life, no matter who is controlling it, is to love whoever is around to be loved." - Kurt Vonnegut

Join the group that all the cool kids these days are joining:
http://www.puretalkforum.com/group.php?groupid=7
GIVE ME ATTENTION, read my journal (naked pictures included):
http://artbathedncrime.livejournal.com/
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Forums: The Life and Times Obdurate Digital Media 8 04-04-08 11:25 AM
What was the best year of your school life? familiguy348 Chit Chat 23 02-24-08 06:35 AM
Life According To Terrance Hatchet General Debate 5 08-20-07 04:27 PM
31 Signs the computer has taken over your life AJ Chit Chat 20 01-12-07 03:40 PM



PTF is a part of The Jab Network.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
vBulletin Style by: kreativfantasy.com
Copyright ©2006 - 2008, PureTalkForum.com