I dislike the idea of heaven but then I tend to think of the christian version as opposed to a very abstract concept of it.

well i can help b/c as a hardcore christian i have made it my duty to when we do Evolution in science to mess with the teacher and ask her all the questions about the missing link God created all creatures great and small all different types Darwin was a seafaring scientist who live off booze and finch meat!

Evolution is a series of very tiny steps over 15 million years. The links you are looking for are going to be pretty damn small and in many cases not even observable since we only have a few fossils. You seem to think that because something isn't found yet, it doesn't exist. Sounds like the kind of attitude against which Galileo was fighting. What does Darwin's personal life have to do with any of this? Darwin was religious and believed in God yet he also managed to find room for science.

I don't understand how you can just ignore science if you're Christian. Science is just always looking for universal truths...it's not just out to spite Christianity. Seems to me most Christians like to ignore truths...maybe that's the problem.


Helen Keller was happy.





(I'm going to hell...oh wait, I'm there..)

Ignorance is bliss you know. Except that I'm a way happier person than any christian I've met so that doesn't really work. If I were truly given the choice, I'd choose knowledge every time.

And I'm pretty sure the guys who wrote the Bible did opium or something. Besides, here's the missing link for Christianity: how come we all know so much about god and how he works seeing as none of us has actually met him? Did he tell these people about himself and they spread the word with the Bible? Why believe these people? They have just about as much credibility as Darwin anyway. Darwin studied all these organisms. He found fossils of fish up in the Andes Mountains. He studied that finch birds and tortoises. Rather than stay sedentary and believe nothing more than what the first Christians believed, he went beyond that and came up with a theory based on his studies. Sure there are missing links, but you can't expect the answers to life to just walk into your hands, unless you think that the Bible is the ultimate source of knowledge.

You don't have to believe in evolution, but you can't just look for reasons to say it is false when there are equally enough reasons to believe your own views are false.

Darwin has far more credibility as far as I'm concerned. He didn't expect people to just accept what he said it because he said it. He understood the value of science and sought to improve his understanding of the world.

It always boggles me when people say they don't believe in evolution. Evolution is simply a process that results in heritable changes in a population spread over many generations. An example Humans are naturally lactose intolerant. Caucasians have evolved over generations to become considerably less intolerant than others groups. This is due to the dependence on dairy (milk, butter, and cheese) by so many caucasians. Groups that were not traditionally dependent on dairy have remained lactose intolerant. This is an example of microevolution. The extent to which evolution is used is not truly correct. Evolution is simply a series of small changes over many generations. One can no more dispute this than the scientific method.

It's very mature of you to mess with the instructor. I can now take you seriously as a debater.

Note: If you didn't catch it, that was very sarcastic

Also the fact that we have different races when Adam and Eve were supposedly whatever they were supposed to be.

Black people lost the pigments in their skin or whatever that would cause sunburns and crap like that. How cool is that when you live on a continent where the sun beats down on you all day?

You can't deny this: genes exist, and are passed to offspring. Consider octopuses. They lay all these eggs and only a few of the babies live to reproduce. Why? Usually because they have traits that are useful to survival, like a more potent ink of longer tentacles for swimming. I don't know. These traits are passed on and eventually all living octopuses have these traits. Advance a million billion kajillion years and a new species may be identifiable. What I can understand is not believing that species deviate too far from how they started out. So basically I can't understand anyone disbelieving that evolution happens, only that it makes huge differences in species.

You'd think no one could deny it but I've seen it happened over and over. It scares me that some of these people have great influence in the world. :shudder: If they can ignore and even attack a simple proven scientific theory, then what other damage can they inflict on their children and the rest of the world??

These are really good. Enjoy!