AJ, I like to question your beliefs and more specifically your LOGIC because you're so sure of your logic and what you believe in it has to be questioned. So knowing that:
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Originally Posted by AJ Thanks for that, BH.
Like he said, there are different types of evolution. Sure we might be able to improve slightly over time, but we are never going to create an entirely new species, nor did man come from an entirely different species. |
First off... you said evolution is bogus but you just said we can improve, so therefore, you can't think that evolution is bogus.
But that's just being picky, so more to the point. This is a logic question. If you can improve slightly over time, why do you not think you can create an entirely new species? Evolution took millions of years. I was gonna add more but I think it would be better addressed because of your #1 reason...
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Anyway...1) Evolution has NEVER been observed.
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Another logic thing, really. You believe in God and God is built entirely on faith and stories. Jesus existed what was he exactly?
Don't give me a "well you're here" answer either. I'm sick of religious blankets like that.
There has been cases of birds flying to different areas and their beaks changed because they adapted to the different foods they had to eat. Evolution.
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2) There are NO transitional fossils.
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This position is based on a misunderstanding of the nature of what represents a transitional feature. A common
creationist argument is that no fossils are found with partially functional features. It is plausible, however, that a complex feature with one function can adapt a wholly different function through evolution. The precursor to, for example, a wing, might originally have only been meant for gliding, trapping flying prey, and/or mating display. Nowadays, wings can still have all of these functions, but they are also used in active flight.
From wikipedia, which has an absolutely WONDERFUL article on evolution.
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3) If the THEORY of evolution is true, every one of us is on this Earth my accident; a random chance (i.e. your life doesn't matter).
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Bullshit. My life matters because I make it matter.
I don't believe in it but nihilism is all about what you said, however. And you know what though? Maybe we as humans don't matter. I can still make my own reasons.
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@Obdurate - It's not just a matter of "seeing" a missing link. Archaeologists have been searching since, well, a long time, and there has been little to no evidence of any transitional or hybrid species. Also, I don't see how you can call yourself a Christian (http://www.puretalkforum.com/f12/abo....html#post3534) and be pro-choice and a believer in evolution. They contradict each other.
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I'm pro-choice because
life is too complicated to be ruled by some simple little rules or ideas that don't take everything into consideration. I'm pro-choice because it isn't pro-death like a lot of pro-lifers think it is.
Just like I can see justified murders and justified violence. Not the route I'd go but I can
understand it.
My first post on (I think) this page was making fun of you because you believe in God then use an argument based around not seeing something. At least have the decency to just admit all your little beliefs are built on faith. Like, I believe in heaven and hell on a faith level and that's enough for me but I don't get after people and use bullshit logic to defend myself.
I don't even care if you think I'm a christian because I've interpreted things in my own way and I believe what I believe. Just call me Discordian if it makes you feel better (I take the good stuff, leave the shit). And get used to it, life contradicts itself.
The bible is stories written by man. And you have no idea how accurate the timeline is in it.
Maybe things aren't like you think. But of course you would never take that into consideration.
And you call yourself a christian while you let a society thrive that exploits and destroys. What I think/do is more beneficial and more along the lines of loving thy neighbour and all that other good stuff.
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Continuing on...
The reason people don't want to accept that we were created and didn't evolve is because that makes them accountable to someone besides themselves - GOD. And of course no one wants to be accountable for their actions!
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I can't speak for everybody (though you seem to think you can) but I would guess a lot of people aren't like that and they think evolution exists because there's actually MORE EVIDENCE FOR IT than against it (some of your evidence is creationist mumbo jumbo).
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Yes, there is a lot of evidence FOR evolution as well; I'm not oblivious to that. But it just doesn't compare with the evidence against it.
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Right... read a little.
Someone else come in and talk about evolution. I just wanted to attack AJ's logic and that is done now. Justin, where are you?