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Okay, I didn't know what was going on but I went on wikipedia and I'm reading his comments and they don't seem that bad.

Someone tell me what is so bad about what he said. I can see how some would take his comments as racist and maybe there is some racism in there, but to me, without knowing the full story, he just comes across as someone who is a victim of things being put out of context.
For example, I look at comments like this:
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“[The United States] government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal. The truth is they did not even believe that white women were created equal, in creation nor civilization. The government had to pass an amendment to the Constitution to get white women the vote. Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence [Thomas], who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century, handpicked by Daddy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, between Clarence and that stacked court, they are about to un-do Roe vs. Wade, just like they are about to un-do affirmative action. The government lied in its founding documents and the government is still lying today. Governments lie.”
He's not wrong in some of the things he's saying.

I wanna stress that I just want examples of what was so bad and why.




Does anybody remember when Kurt Vonnegut got in shit because he said he thinks modern day terrorists are brave and they're dying for their self respect? And it was seen as anti-American and all that.
Vonnegut, another dead hero.
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Here are a couple....

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/28/transcript-rev-wright-at-the-national-press-club/

You don't see any problems with the content in the speech??
Hell, even Obama is distancing himself and denouncing Wright's tirades as "divisive and wrong".................... now that he understands the implications of this jackass continuing to let his mouth overload his ass.

It's hard for me to understand how a black "minister" can use the pulpit as a means to incite his own people and members of the church to blame white people for their plight at a time when they are being afforded every opportunity ahead of other races, to prosper.


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lol Some of this is a little extreme but some of it, like I said, is right on. Some of it is blind hatred or lies but a good point gets through there occasionally.

Where are you getting your information, because I can't see how blacks have more opportunity than other races.
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You can find a good point in some of Hitler's rants too.
Does that detract from the overall message? Hardly.

Where am I getting my information?
Listen, I lived through desegregation. I fought black kids every day that were given the same types of messages from their parents that I see uttered from the mouth of this Wright asshole.
They hated me for no other reason than because I was white and their parents told them I was evil.
Luckily for me, I could fight and whip a few of their asses, so they left me alone.
You see, my family is a proud White family. Imagine that. White pride.
We were told to fight back when we were wronged and we were not told to discrminate who we fought based on the color of their skin.
Granted, the burden of prejudice goes both ways and I have known my share of awful whites preying on blacks because of the color of their skin too.
But let's be fair...prejudice is every bit as prevalent in black culture as it is in all others.
I have watched programs fund minorites ahead of underpriviliged whites and exclude opportunities for anyone who competes against minorities in the workplace.
Google Affirmative Action.

While God may be the ultimate judge, society SHOULD judge people based on their actions and deeds and not the color of their skin.
Hell, MLK said as much when he railed against prejudice.
He wasn't denouncing white people. He was denouncing a government that supported racism and lack of opportunity.
I'm sure he's rolling over in his grave listening to "Reverend" Wright tell his flock how awful the white establishment is present day.
He's a lunatic and he perpetuates atrocities by and against his own people with his hate speech.
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But what I'm saying is that sometimes when the guy is saying what has happened in the past he's right and it needs to be acknowledged more than it is.

I don't agree with hatred towards any race, which is why I'd never fully listen to Wright.

What exactly is your family proud of?

I'm not buying your reasoning for blacks having more opportunity. No doubt there are some groups out there helping minorities but you can honestly say that just because you've seen some groups that they have more opportunities than whites? We're still a society that is, unfortunately, a victim of large amounts of racism. A few programs here and there won't solve that. Blacks getting beat by cops more than whites, blacks not having the power that white men do, etc. I agree that some blacks hate white people for no other reason than they're racist and I agree it doesn't help but I just can't get behind you thinking blacks have more opportunities than... whites.

Though I will say that it depends on where you are. For example, I come from a largely racist town. There's maybe 10 black people in the whole population.

So whatever.
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What exactly is your family proud of?
What are we proud of?
We are proud of who we are and where we came from.
Our heritage, our customs and our belief in each other and ourselves.
I see too many white people who assume someone else's traditions and culture because they are mentally, emotionally and intellectually bankrupt.
That was the point. Be proud of who you are and where you came from, regardless of race.

As for blacks being behind the 8-ball, I'm not buying that garbage either.
I've seen them advance into positions they were not qualified for more frequently than they should have been for no other reason than their color.
What did MLK say about "content of charachter"?

Positions of power have been passed down to the priviliged for centuries here and in other countries, and not only to white people.
Should everyone who was the beneficiary of money, power and privilige start apologizing for that and give it all back to minorities?
I don't think so.

If a person of color wants to be successful, they must do what most of their white counterparts have had to do....EARN IT.
And just for the record, most white people start from the same level playing ground as people of color do.

I do agree that blacks are profiled for crimes much more frequently than whites and that it is much more publicized than when a group of blacks torture and kill innocent whites or bang them against the head with a brick while they celebrate.

The point is that wrong transcends race.
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