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relgion is not the way to heaven. rather Jesus is. christianity is not a religion but a way of life.
well put.
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To quote Bill Hicks "Heaven...is in a cow's butt!!"
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i do believe in God. but i dont think this is what he had in mind when he created Earth and Adam and Eve.

it just goes to show how fucked up people have become over the many many years over history.

if you actually think about it what he invisioned is actually somewhat true. he did ask for people to believe in one God. whether he meant just him as that one God or a group of people coming together(Catholics, Christains, Baptist, Jews, etc.....) to believe in their own God.

either way no one is perfect so does that mean none of us go the Heaven!!!
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a group of people coming together(Catholics, Christains, Baptist, Jews, etc.....) to believe in their own God.
These people all believe in the same God.

But not only did he say to follow one God, but he said to follow Him and only Him.

I.E. The 1st commandment...

Do not have any gods before Me. Do not represent such gods by any carved statue or picture or anything in the heaven above or the earth below or in the water below the land. Do not bow down to or worship them.
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either way no one is perfect so does that mean none of us go the Heaven!!!
We're not expected to be perfect. We're expected to seek forgiveness when we fall and get back up as a stronger person.
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What if you are wrong AJ? What if Hindus are correct, or Jews or the Iriquois? Or more likely, no one is correct?
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Because, gilli, out of all the people to live on this earth, Jesus was the only one who claimed to be the Son of God and could back it up with miracles, rising from the dead, etc. That's according to the New Testament. Now you may be wondering why I believe the New Testament is correct. First of all, archaeological tests have confirmed the accuracy of many details of the New Testament. Secondly, the dating of the gospels further confirms accuracy. Within 7 years, four separate people wrote of Jesus and they all line up with each other. Lastly, I feel that I have truly connected with our Lord. I really do feel that Jesus is guiding me through my life and He has helped me through so many tough obstacles. It's just indescribable. I have absolutly no doubt of my beliefs because of the things that I have experienced.
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its more likely like at the core of almost every religion they believe in is following one god, maybe becuase of different languages and the like over time the name of this one god has gotten changed or mis interpreted etc... what if buddah and the american christian god are the same? don't know about buddah or that religion just saying... its quite possible that its all the same person just called something different. and depending on ur culture depends on the way you get to this god.
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The thing is...it's not just about God. It's about Jesus, too. If they don't accept Jesus as their savior, then it's a no-go, unfortunately.
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The thing is...it's not just about God. It's about Jesus, too. If they don't accept Jesus as their savior, then it's a no-go, unfortunately.
by how you and I believe yes... but like i said, i find it truly hard to believe that the rest of the majority of the world that were never told of our way of belief that god is just going to shun away and say welp you never knew of me so you s.o.l... not likely. I honestly don't think that any one religion is ENTIRELY wrong... catholism for example, I don't think paying for your sins by praying to marry and doing penance and asking a priest for forgivness is the way to heaven. but they do believe in god. the same god mind your that we believe in. other religions believe that being as much like Christ is the way to heaven. by witnessing to others. doing as right as a sinnable person can do. this is just a few examples off the top of my head...

all of which can show scripture to prove their way of being, some people might say the bible is very contradictory... i think it has reasons for saying the things its does... we have to remember the books of the bible were alot of stories cross paths and not every single persons version of that story will be the same... even though god is speaking through them. I believe the old testament to be more of a guide with stories of much like aesops fables... telling you how you should live and warning you of how you shouldn't... and the new testament well.. its telling of things to come...
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its more likely like at the core of almost every religion they believe in is following one god, maybe becuase of different languages and the like over time the name of this one god has gotten changed or mis interpreted etc... what if buddah and the american christian god are the same? don't know about buddah or that religion just saying... its quite possible that its all the same person just called something different. and depending on ur culture depends on the way you get to this god.
that was exactly what i was trying to say.

i'm thinking somewhere along the lines things got misenterprated. kinda like a game they showed us at school when we were younger. everyone would get in a big circle and someone would start off the game and whisper something to the person next to him and then that person would repeat what he heard from the first person and so on. and by the end when it got to the last person it would be totally different from what the first person had said.

now i know comparing God to a game might sound ridiculous but it shows how people over the years might have changed a few things.
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