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Yes, I believe in God. Why? Well simply because He exists. There is a higher power who created the whole world. Everything leads to Gods existance and power.
How does everything lead to his existence and power?
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How does everything lead to his existence and power?
Lets think of ourselves as an example. We are humans, alive and capable of doing numerous things. We have a brain to think with and a body to perform with. How did we come to existance? Did we just evolve out of nowhere? I think not. Surely there must have been a high power who created us, who created the whole world-the universe. That is when we come to conclude that every living thing leads to God.
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Lets think of ourselves as an example. We are humans, alive and capable of doing numerous things. We have a brain to think with and a body to perform with. How did we come to existance? Did we just evolve out of nowhere? I think not. Surely there must have been a high power who created us, who created the whole world-the universe. That is when we come to conclude that every living thing leads to God.
Do you identify with any particular religion or are you an unlabeled theist?
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Lets think of ourselves as an example. We are humans, alive and capable of doing numerous things. We have a brain to think with and a body to perform with. How did we come to existance? Did we just evolve out of nowhere? I think not. Surely there must have been a high power who created us, who created the whole world-the universe. That is when we come to conclude that every living thing leads to God.
I can't tell by this statement if you doubt evolution or just abiogenesis. The first is worse than the latter.
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I can't tell by this statement if you doubt evolution or just abiogenesis. The first is worse than the latter.
It seems to be a bit of both.

We didn't evolve out of nowhere. We evolved from some very basic form of life over billions of years.
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I have personal beliefs about God, but I also understand that my thoughts and beliefs could be a delusion I created or simply a part of my imagination. But I have a very intriguing, creative belief about God, human beings, monkeys and banana's.

I also believe that nothing is everything. And evolution is very obvious to me, provable, falsifiable, and observable.

I dont believe God can be found in the pages of a book, maybe the word God, but if there is a being named God, who is that intelligent and powerful, that creature would be shrouded in mystery.
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Yes, I believe in the existence of a personal God. I'm not going to read through all 11 pages, so I'll make a brief response to this:

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Don't you think that as time has gone on, people could have changed the bible from what it originally was? Do you realize that sometimes history is bias, or even downright fabricated? Or even that it's written by the winners (this may or may not apply to the bible, I just wanted to take a shot at history, go me)?
You pose a fair question, but there is really no manuscript evidence for your hypothesis. When it comes to the NT, we have numerous attestation, damaging details (which wouldn't be included if people were making stuff up), and manuscript evidence.

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What about say... someone parting water. Should it honestly be believed since it defies all logic?
It does not defy logic. It is logically possible for someone to part water. You may believe it to be improbable, but it's logically possible.
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What is faith? How can it move mountains or part seas? Is faith a material object? Scientists now know of something that we cannot see called dark matter...could this have something to do with it?

Then again, physical evidence shows no support for faith and prayer causing miracles.
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No, things such as faith, justice, reason, thoughts, propositions, universals, and abstract entities are all immaterial.

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Then again, physical evidence shows no support for faith and prayer causing miracles.
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That's like trying to weigh a car with a yardstick - it's a category mistake. The physical sciences have no bearing on the immaterial.
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So we need to look at faith at a psychological level, like we would our perception of justice and the rest of your list.
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