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There is genetic mutation, of course. God didn't create every species. God created the types of animals (including humans) and from there diversity formed. The point is that humans did not come from anything less than humans. Not chimps, not monkeys, not apes, not microorganisms.
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Do you believe early humans looked somewhat like apes/gorillas/etc. like the "Ice Man" that was found preserved on some mountain who got shot with an arrow?
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Children are influenced by their educators. Religion, is a topic that people have been fighting wars about for centuries. Classroom discussion, if you remember being in class, should be devoted to the class material. Enough class time is wasted on tardy students (and I've been one :/) and those that are just unprepared, or talking.

Evolution has evidence, rooted in the fossil record, which is something many students are required to learn about in science. This discussion is beneficial to both the student and the teacher.

Creationism. You mention this is class, you will find at least 2 students who are of a different religion and will have differing beliefs regardless. Considering there is no proof of Creationism, what is the teacher going to use to keep the students interested? Talk about how they feel about their religion? Where will this class discussion lead to, and why were they in class in the first place?

And who's God are you going to tell them created it? And how can God just be male, or just be female, if we have both? And how do you know your God is the one and only true God? Maybe your image is different than mine, and the next student and the next....can you honestly tell me God looks the same to everyone? This is how class discussion will go. It's a discussion kids love to ask questions to, that they really know are trick questions, because there is no proof. They know. They know what they believe God is. And it's probably not the same as yours. They're kids...God looks different...
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I keep hearing about intermediates, but I have yet to actually even see a picture of one.


And regarding creationist proof, I don't understand why the overwhelming amount of documentation doesn't count for anything.

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And who's God are you going to tell them created it? And how can God just be male, or just be female, if we have both? And how do you know your God is the one and only true God? Maybe your image is different than mine, and the next student and the next....can you honestly tell me God looks the same to everyone? This is how class discussion will go. It's a discussion kids love to ask questions to, that they really know are trick questions, because there is no proof. They know. They know what they believe God is. And it's probably not the same as yours. They're kids...God looks different...
God is neither male nor female. He's a spiritual being.

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Do you believe early humans looked somewhat like apes/gorillas/etc. like the "Ice Man" that was found preserved on some mountain who got shot with an arrow?
No. God made man in His image. Apes, gorillas, etc. were not made in God's image.
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I keep hearing about intermediates, but I have yet to actually even see a picture of one.
You're not getting it, Jol. The world(thus the environments in it) is wearing away; assuming evolution is just a mere theory, we're the end of the line, because the environment worsens, leaving us with fewer and fewer traits required to survive in it. ( in most cases) We've simply gotten to the point of no looking forward,

Thus you're not going to find any current intermediates. The fossils we're talking about are not "in the moment" ones--that's practically impossible to find.


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And regarding creationist proof, I don't understand why the overwhelming amount of documentation doesn't count for anything.
Creationist proof? I don't think it's likely God explicitly "left his mark" on much anything, Jol. What "documentation" are you speaking of, anyways?
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No. God made man in His image. Apes, gorillas, etc. were not made in God's image.
I agree. However, I still think it's more reasonable that God planned for man to be "of God's image" (not appearance wise-but rationally and having emotion) through evolutionary process.
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yeah we are created similar to God not in appearance. but in emotion. cause God has emotions.
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There is absolutely no way that Creationism should be taught in classes alongside evolution. Evolution is the science that has mounds of evidence to back it up and Creationism is based on nothing more than faith.

I think that Creationists ignore the strong evidence against their interpretation. You would think that what is supposed to be God's creation and the evidence we can gather from it should have some effect on how scripture is interpreted.

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I keep hearing about intermediates, but I have yet to actually even see a picture of one.
Are you only referring to intermediates in human evolution or in evolution in general? I could probably scrape up some once I have the ability to post links.

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I have never seen any creationist proof, what are you referring to?
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I don't see why creationism can't be taught alongside evolution.

The more you know, the more you know. Of course, the education system needs a complete overhaul, anyways.
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