Are Nude Photos Pornography?

Gleabs · #31 08-28-08, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by YamiB.

Henson show charges - Arts - Entertainment - smh.com.au

This photography Bill Henson has recently gotten in trouble for having photos that featured nudity of underage people. These images were then classified as child pornography and the police seized them.

I think that a model in a photo being nude does not necessarily make something pornographic. I can't make a 100% opinion without seeing the actual pictures in question. But judging by Henson's other work I would probably like it and that it would probably have artistic value.

What do you think about this case or the issue in general?

Yes, I believe that in general, nude photos count as pornography. If it was for an artistic purpose, then that's another story. In his case, however, "police have attended the gallery and executed a search warrant and seized some items depicting a child under the age of 16 years in a sexual context."

Child pornography. Need I say more?

Gleabs · #32 08-28-08, 06:53 AM

Police widen Henson inquiry - Arts - Entertainment - smh.com.au

This looks pretty pornographic to me.

Ich_Bin_Butler · #33 08-28-08, 03:57 PM

I don't think so. Just because she's naked doesn't mean she was in sexual poses or whatever. People just associate nudity with sex...rather, female nudity with sex. The body has become an icon of sex, and apparently, unless you are 18, you are not old enough to be naked where people can see you, or else you have automatically been taken advantage of, and probably raped.

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por·nog·ra·phy

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fi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pawr-nog-ruh-fee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, esp. those having little or no artistic merit.
[Origin: 1840–50; < Gk pornográph(os) writing about harlots (porno-, comb. form of pórné harlot + -graphos -graph) + -y3

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Was it obscene and have no or little artistic merit? Seemed pretty artistic to me, and not very obscene. If our bodies are obscene by default, why aren't we all wearing biohazard suits with tinted face coverings so no one can see us?

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por·nog·ra·phy <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/audi...nography" target="_blank"><img src="http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif" border="0" /></a> Audio Help (pôr-nŏg'rə-fē) Pronunciation Key
n.

Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
The presentation or production of this material.
Lurid or sensational material: "Recent novels about the Holocaust have kept Hitler well offstage [so as] to avoid the ... pornography of the era" (Morris Dickstein).

[French pornographie, from pornographe, pornographer, from Late Greek pornographos, writing about prostitutes : pornē, prostitute; see per-5 in Indo-European roots + graphein, to write; see -graphy.]

"...whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal." Who decided what the intentions were behind the photographs? Did Henson take these pictures so anyone who bought them at the exhibition could jack off to a 14 year old? Or was she 16? Anyway, I doubt it. As far as it being sexually oriented, that's for the viewer to decide.

Gleabs · #34 08-29-08, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ich_Bin_Butler

Did Henson take these pictures so anyone who bought them at the exhibition could jack off to a 14 year old? Or was she 16? Anyway, I doubt it. As far as it being sexually oriented, that's for the viewer to decide.

*cough* child pornography *cough*

Ich_Bin_Butler · #35 08-29-08, 09:00 AM

It was a child, but we have no proof it was pornography.

Gleabs · #36 08-29-08, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ich_Bin_Butler

It was a child, but we have no proof it was pornography.

it very much looks like child pornography to me. i mean, what a sicko, taking pictures of nude underage girls. it's not even art.

YamiB. · #37 08-30-08, 01:45 AM

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Yes, I believe that in general, nude photos count as pornography. If it was for an artistic purpose, then that's another story. In his case, however, "police have attended the gallery and executed a search warrant and seized some items depicting a child under the age of 16 years in a sexual context."

How can you not think it was for an artistic purpose? It was an art exhibit that they were confiscated from not, some guys basement or something.

Are you going to say how these pictures fit the definition that Ich Bin posted?

Gleabs · #38 08-31-08, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by YamiB.

How can you not think it was for an artistic purpose? It was an art exhibit that they were confiscated from not, some guys basement or something.

Are you going to say how these pictures fit the definition that Ich Bin posted?

Yes. It's pictures of naked little underage girls. Who calls that art? "sexually explicit pictures whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal" I think it fits in with that definition. Her boobs and vagina were showing.

YamiB. · #39 08-31-08, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gleabs

Yes. It's pictures of naked little underage girls. Who calls that art? "sexually explicit pictures whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal" I think it fits in with that definition. Her boobs and vagina were showing.

Because we all know that something including nudity must mean that it was only intended to create sexual arousal. Real art never includes nudity.

Gleabs · #40 09-01-08, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by YamiB.

Because we all know that something including nudity must mean that it was only intended to create sexual arousal. Real art never includes nudity.

Yes, but those girls were UNDERAGE. There isn't underage nude art. Only sickos would think of it as art.

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