I just don't get why you'd even ask Cheez the question you did, after he/she said:
Pornography involves 1 or more naked individuals in various positions that arouse the watcher, they can be having sex or not.

I think the answer is pretty obvious.

And porn and art don't have to be mutually exclusive.

I asked because there is porn with no nakedness to be found and I wanted to know where those examples go according to his definition.

I did hear somewhere that pornography was defined as something sexual with no artistic value.

Anyway, we do have a thread on what art is. I don't think I ever really looked at it, or maybe I made a few posts, but anyway, what is disturbing is that people want to put this man in jail for thinking that our bodies are natural works of art and not just devices for sexual arousal. They wouldn't bitch about it if she was over 18, but what's the difference? A few years? Is she not mature enough to understand what she is doing and why? She obviously thought it was a good idea, and not just for money. If it was just for money she would do porn and get maybe $50,000 a week.

Which is better or worse? For someone to get off on pornographic pictures of children, or for them to go out and rape them.

This brings up the interesting subject of the pedophile hunters. Coming from someone who was raped as a child, I must say that these pedophile hunters are far worse than the pedophiles they hunt. Especially out here on the beaches. They dress up little girls in mini-skirts and have children make noises and scream, all because some man raped a 12 year old girl.

3 words

I DONT CARE

I was raped as a child and I really dont remember it even happening, or hurting, I laughed when they told me what had happened to me. What do you mean mommy?

I honestly dont care, and I dont care if he got off on it. And I really dont think I would have turned out as good without that happening to me. I'm actually grateful the guy raped me. I dont hate him. They cant help it. They like it, and they'll do it again.

Thank you for raping me.

I'm here to tell you, you were good.

But on the contrary, every time I hear a baby or a small child crying I feel my anger growing more and more.

It makes me want to pick up an M-16 and start firing.

I'll take it out on everyone. I'll fuck your whole neighborhood up.

And if I cant win, then I'll kill everyone.

So this is why I have to talk to my counselor.

So I can be a nice person and not kill everyone.

You want to shoot the children or the people responsible for the children?

The parents aren't always aggressors. The kids probably want something that their parents won't give them/are going to give them, but not instantly, given their inadequacy in the field of teleportation.

Or do you just want to kill people at random because kids are crying?

Mmmmm....because kids are crying, yes that its, thats the one, children crying is always a good reason to kill people at random.

No, I really dont want to kill anyone.

But I cant help but feel this way.

Or what if......what if I were to have sex with pedophiles, then maybe they wouldnt want to rape small children. They could rape me instead.

I could even play the role and scream daddy, daddy.

Daddy look at me !!!!
Look at me Daddy !!!!

*does cartwheel*

Make sure they wear a condom!

What if I want them to cum inside me.

Oh no, your right, we cant have a bunch of little pedophiles running around now can we.