i really don't agree with it that the parents are raising pussies, i think the system is pushing people to be this way, you can just come out and express your anger like you used to... when my dad was a kid and he had a issue with another kid they would pause school pull everyone to the gymnasium pull out the boxing ring put gloves on them and let them duke out their differences... these days, it leads to lawsuits and assault charges... kids are afraid to stand up for themselves for fear of the consequences, so rather than show their anger they keep it inside... eventually leading to blowing up. so you want to say bullies are not the soul cause of it, and its okay to blame objects like music video games movies... this is ridiculous i personally think the bullies that pushed these kids this far should be punished, if there not already dead from pushing someone so far as to commit a school shooting.

And these policy makers...they don't have children? They're not parents trying to protect their own innocence through their offspring? The system sure as hell does want you to question any type of aggressive act, they want you to be a pacifist, it's much easier to control a country that won't rally, that won't rebel, that won't fight back. But much like those kids that snap, there's always a breaking point.

The bullies play a part in it, but they've been there forever, so you can't point your finger and them and say that's why!

so your saying its easier to point the fingers at media instead? i truly think if you could take the bully out of a school you wouldn't have school shootings... maybe thats naive but i've seen a school thats lost its bully i've seen a school were people took up for the bullied person... it was a much happier place for everyone, even those that did not directly get affected by the bully were tired of seeing the bullying going on.

the government will always be the scapegoat...

Where did I blame the media? While I do think the media is guilty of being completely self absorbed and very hypocritical, I don't blame it for any kind of violence.

Government as a scapegoat...yea...what isn't a scapegoat? There always has to be something you can point out as the root cause of a problem, why don't we just accept the fact we live in a violent society? The American History is covered in blood, is it any wonder that our children inherited that trait?

i guess im somehow missing your point... unless its the government is the cause.. in that case at its core the government is the cause of everything... but on a more immediate note, if bullying wasn't happened school shooting wouldn't occur, well at least of the magnitude that it is... it might be a guy coming and shooting the guy his girlfriend cheated on him with but hell thats never on the news... its only the massacres that ever hit the news.

...you are missing my point...I'm blaming....US! The people. The people who have no self control, the people who have no spine, the people who can't control themselves and be fucking civil. The people who have no consciousness, who sleep walk through life, who ignore problems and ignore solutions. The people who are always looking for an easy way out, a third party to blame for their own problems.

Bullies are people too. They're responsible for their actions, but you can't say that they are the soul cause of violence in schools. What about all the medications we shove down kids throats these days? The med's that actually make you become more hostile if you go off them for any period of time. And who prescribed those meds? PEOPLE. Doctors who either didn't care and just wrote a script, or parents who demanded to leave the office with some kind of pill, because they think that's a magical solution.

I blame government for a lot of bad things, but what makes up the government? The people and the people we've elected to represent us. Fuck the titles, it all boils down to people and their actions. Take responsibility for it.


Just for shits and giggles....how are you planning on eliminating bulling? If you want to get rid of intolerance, why start with something so fucking petty? Kids need to realize that high school isn't life...life is nothing close to that shit hole, and if you let other people bring you down there, they're going to bring you down the rest of your life as well.

It was minimal at my school through a senior program... as a freshman walking in i was scared i admit, never been in a place like this before, a lil over weight i was, red headed, kinda dorkish... so it was to be expected... i was walking down the stairs and a guy pats the back of my backpack and i thought well shit here we go... i turned around and he says whats up man? i said nothing he said, im your senior... I said what? he said, I'm your senior i got your back this year... and I was like huh? some form of prison yard in high school is what it sounded like. I just looked at him like what do you expect in return, he before i could even say it said all i want is for each year, past this one you pick a freshman and make them your buddy, and you watch and protect them for that year, and they will do this and the person they protect will do this and so on and so on... literally freshman year a sophomore walks up to me in the lunchroom and just being a dick hits my lunch plate and all my food ends up on the floor, me able to protect myself i get in the guys face, we are about to duke it out when "my senior" walk up and grabs the guy and pulls him to the side and talks to him. next thing i know the guy apologizes and hand me money for another lunch. He didn't rough the guy up if thats what you picture he just talked to him.

several different things happened throughout the year, and everytime, my senior friend would be there when i least expected, i soon became friends with just about every senior and junior.. was I popular not by any means, but i had a pretty good core of friends, and we all took up for one another, the next year, i did as he did for me. I picked a freshman and made him my buddy and introduced him to the likes as i was. never really needed to take up for him, cause nothing to my knowledge ever happened, then my senior year rolls around.

my friend and I were standing in the hall on the first day of class, the freshman were walking through and this scrawny kid was carrying all his books. my friend steps out and slams his hand on the top books causing this poor kids books to go everywhere. I quickly grabbed my friend by the arm and ask him what he was doing? he said just returning the favor... I couldn't believe it... my friend was never this way in years previous... I told him that wouldn't happen again. i think he was so surprised and taken back that i stood up for the kid... he went and apologized and that was that. Not saying this would completely solve every bullying situation, but its a start...

You cant just start at PEOPLE in general and expect to make a change... you have to take small steps at a time... its sad that we can't just make "people" as a whole change. its very vague and generalizing to put it down to just "people" cause not all people are the same. its types of "people" that we have to change. some people just perceive things as the cool thing to do so they do it, and its probably not who they truly are, its just what the majority of people would do so they do it.

People, should actually be the easiest thing to change. Because it's all you controlling your own actions. Sure, you can't change every person everywhere in an instant, but it takes every individual person changing their own actions to influence others actions. Much like in the story you told.

You say it's types of people that have to change, implying that there are types of people who have it right on. I disagree and leave it at the vague statement of people in general. Until all people can realize they all have a hand in why this world is shit, and set aside their idea's that there are separate groups of people, separate rules and different definitions of right and wrong, we'll never get anywhere.

Maybe I am being too vague and asking too much. I'm watching The Boondocks right now, and this quote seems to sum up most of the things I say here..

"You just want everyone to be miserable because you're miserable! And why are you wearing that stupid coat!"

So..like Huey..I'll just grab my soap box and shut up.

its okay to think this way, as long as you realize your part of the problem by generalizing people, you are a person too

I never excluded myself from the problem. I don't claim to be perfect, but I do try to better myself.