http://www.puretalkforum.com Debate and discuss current news, events and issues around the world. en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:28:45 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.puretalkforum.com/images/monkeybatter/misc/rss.jpg http://www.puretalkforum.com http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/la-councilwoman-proposes-public-awareness-slogan-7372.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:47:54 GMT La. councilwoman proposes public awareness slogan against baggy pants: 'Low pants, no chance'
(AP) 03:42:04 PM (ET), Wednesday, September 8, 2010 (BATON ROUGE, La.)

A Baton Rouge Metro Council member wants the parish to support a public awareness campaign against men who wear their pants so low that their boxer shorts show. Councilwoman C. Denise Marcelle has a slogan for the campaign: "Low pants, no chance."
"I hate to see it and I see so much of it in my district," Marcelle said. "It's disrespectful to the elderly, to young kids and to women."
Her resolution, on the agenda for discussion Wednesday, says wearing saggy pants creates negative stereotypes and that "those who wear saggy pants are hurting their chances of becoming employable, educated and productive citizens."
Marcelle said she'd like to pass a law allowing police to cite and fine people for wearing saggy pants that expose their underwear, but recognizes that constitutional issues prevent such a law.
A public-awareness campaign is the next-best thing to try to get these young men to hitch up their pants, she said.
Councilman Rodney "Smokie" Bourgeois and Councilwomen Donna Collins-Lewis and Ronnie Edwards say they support Mercelle's proposal.
"How are you going to get a job with your pants down around your knees?" Bourgeois asked.
However, Councilman Scott Wilson questioned whether young people would pay any attention to the campaign, and said proper dress is something that should be dealt with at home, rather than by the council.
The trend may be on its way out anyway, said Doze Y. Butler, professor of apparel, merchandising and textiles at Southern University.
Fewer men wore saggy pants last semester on the Baton Rouge campus, she said.
And, she noted, she saw a variant _ "MC Hammer-type pants _ on a study tour to Europe. They're baggy and have low crotches, but the waistlines are high enough to cover underwear, butler said.
"I think it's a trend that's finally moving on," she said.
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* Think there's better issues to "cover" than fasion statements. * :hmmmm2: ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/la-councilwoman-proposes-public-awareness-slogan-7372.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/diane-von-furstenberg-designs-hospital-gowns-7368.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:56:03 GMT Diane von Furstenberg designs hospital gowns at Cleveland Clinic that lose peek-a-boo back
(AP) 12:57:04 PM (ET), Wednesday, September 8, 2010 (CLEVELAND)
Fashion designer Diane von Furstenberg has helped the Cleveland Clinic create a more stylish hospital gown without the peek-a-boo back.

The gown features elements associated with von Furstenberg designs _ a wrap dress with a bold, graphic print. The clinic's logo is printed on the fabric.

The gown has side ties, which eliminate the embarrassing open-back look.

The Plain Dealer says the fabric was chosen to address a concern that patients were too warm in the hospital.

So designers had to find a material lightweight enough to be cool but tough enough to withstand frequent laundering and having monitors and drains pinned to it.

Feedback has been mostly positive. Some men have complained that the gown is too feminine, so the design team is condering an alternate print.

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* Any comments ? * ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/diane-von-furstenberg-designs-hospital-gowns-7368.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/somalia-war-7366.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:08:23 GMT The war in Somalia is because of religious ideals. These can be met without force. It is childish to resort to aggression to make someone else act like you. If you were to run a house that has rules, that is your right. To go to the neighbor with a gun and tell them what to do is not saving them, that is their house. So, who is right?

When someone fights for a way of life they need to keep in mind that their way of life is different to others. Think if they made a rule of what to eat on various nights, would that please Allah? If Allah wants to control your life, or at least 'call shots' in it, give advice, then Mohammad would have had a lot more to say. What was said is the basics of a good life, prosperity and joy and pleasing Him.

If He wanted people to die for His ways to be lived out he would send plagues against people in the west, yes? If He wanted to run your marriage totally, then He would give more instructions on how to be happy, and seeing as how He never gives advice on how to be happy, being happy yourself comes second to Him being happy. He is pleased when people do as He says, but that is slavery, yes? If the whole world was to live the same way then He would be even more pleased, but, what if the neighbor has a better understanding of how to live? It is not clear everything that is said, so leaving it up to clerics to deliver the word unto you would be the best choice - people that have their whole lives based on understanding and are clearly not fools. These people never call for 'arms', but rather patience, petitioning and so forth. If you love Allah you must listen to these wise men and then absorb what they say - or - you will become frustrated with your neighbor, one that lives differently, and then maybe resort to violence, yes?

Listen to your clerics. They do not want this! Please understand that this will not solve any problems, and only cause suffering and grief for all others. Now where does Allah say that you need to do these things? For a God to ever say that you must take the life of another, have you ever heard of joining a gang? Have you ever heard of adopting a child? Take... or give.

Now seeing as there are developed African states with air forces, this is not winnable. All they need to do is get all the people out of the city, then carpet bomb it repeatedly, leading to a total submission of all forces. They do not have any anti air craft weapons, so they will not lose a single plane. Imagine something like a farmer's jet coming over with some contact poison on board, something like anthrax? This will result in the city being saved and then the soldiers dying, and for what? Or...

Seeing as how the main city is on the coast they could use ships to launch some rockets into the city without reply. I am sure the Western coast of the near east could muster a small force and instead of having simulations they could target practice into this city, using live ammo and then getting crucial military experience, yes?

Please, listen to your clerics. How are your ideals different to those of other human beings? Be reasonable, that is what divides us from animals! ]]> Current Events Charlatan http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/somalia-war-7366.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/iran-n-korea-nukes-7365.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:08:27 GMT If it is power they want, like for making a power station, then they need to make a new form of power. They could do this by taking solar power and absorbing all the gamma rays they can. This can be one by taking the panel and then making it so they have cotton in them as well so they receive more power coming in, so, they will absorb the power more. This will be channeled out radio actively so that they can be absorbed into the metals of the panel, and then they can absorb much more power to be used.

If it weapons they are after, who will they use them against? Is it like a play ground where someone kids get candy and others do not? Think of it, when one country has a nuke there is peace, when two countries have nukes then there is stress and 'threats'. If there were no nukes then there would be one of two scenes, total peace, or, total hostility.

Now, to prove one or the other we need to look into human psychology because it is human beings that point these weapons at each other.

If one person were to have a gun trained on you and then withdraw from it, which is apparent here, then there would be an immediate surge for vengeance or survival. If the countries are militant, then they need to have a motive for their soldiers to attack or justify it to them. Or they could just want to be paid, so...

Offering jobs to these soldiers as police in foreign countries will remove the threat all together, yes? If they were to just have no army left they would be unable to defend themselves, the peacekeepers march in, the police see no laws being broken... what a mess? No! What a way forward.

With the threatening countries out of the picture then the whole world could disarm. The UN and ICC could outlaw military practice, as it is not defensive [defense force!] - it is aggressive, duh! The police is your defense force, and if everybody stuck to that nobody would even bother to attack a city... for what? To kill some kids and old people? Think about it, all wars are about land, but what is the purpose of borders? To keep people out. Facing the break down of borders they will come to the city and see no jobs and quickly go home to their families or however they used to live, not even worried about money any further, taking what they need instead, yes? In and out, quick look around, back home. The reason they stay is because it might be difficult to get back over the border the second time, but facing no way to reach their dreams of wealth they will no doubt return home. No need for borders, no need for wars, no need for soldiers, no need for nukes!

I think we can all agree to that... yeah! ]]> Current Events Charlatan http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/iran-n-korea-nukes-7365.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/child-slavery-7364.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:47:31 GMT This is a terrible problem in Africa and I suppose South America, Asia... hell all over the world!

Now to right this problem the authorities need to suppose a person buying a lot of groceries all the time would be feeding someone, usually a man, or even a woman. This will usually be all over the place, so 'marking' them [before you 'take them out'] would be advised. Tailing people in undercover cars to find out where they are going will find and destroy the franchise, then the children that are still being smuggled there need to be rescued, yes?

Using thermal imaging on the edges of places suspected or reported of children being held will reveal a lot of little bodies and them being still will mean they are, if uncomfortable, warranted for investigation - in rooms or lairs. ]]> Current Events Charlatan http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/child-slavery-7364.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/john-travolta-puts-end-bahamas-extortion-7353.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:06:25 GMT John Travolta Puts an End to Bahamas Extortion Case



By PopEater / Wire Services Posted Sep 6th 2010 11:30AM



A judge in the Bahamas dismissed charges Monday against two people accused of trying to extort money from John Travolta after the prosecutor said the actor no longer wanted to pursue a case stemming from the death of his teenage son.

Prosecutor Neil Braithwaite had submitted a motion to drop the case after a jury had already been picked and a retrial scheduled for the two defendants.

"The Travolta family has said that this matter has caused them unbelievable stress and pain and they wish to put this whole thing behind them," Braithwaite said.

Ambulance driver Tarino Lightbourne and his attorney, politician Pleasant Bridgewater, were accused of threatening to release private information about the January 2009 death of Travolta's 16-year-old son Jett at the family vacation home in Grand Bahama.

Lightbourne, who was among the medics who treated Jett, allegedly sought $25 million from the actor with the assistance of Bridgewater, who resigned her seat in the Bahamas Senate after she was charged in the case.

A judge declared a mistrial in October after a Bahamian lawmaker suggested the still-deliberating jury had acquitted one of the suspects.

Travolta had testified during that trial and one of his attorneys said in October that he had been prepared to testify again if necessary. But the actor said Monday that the delay in prosecuting the case had prompted his decision not to take the stand again

"The long-pending status of this matter continued to take a heavy emotional toll on my family, causing us to conclude that it was finally time to put this matter behind us," he said in a statement to The Associated Press. Therefore, after much reflection I concluded that it was in my family's best interest for me not to voluntarily return to The Bahamas to testify a second time at trial."
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* Our thoughts and prayers goes out to the Travoltas. * ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/john-travolta-puts-end-bahamas-extortion-7353.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/who-funding-world-terror-huh-7349.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:45:11 GMT World terror is a real problem and we need to stop the funding before we can move forwards.

To stop world terror we simply monitor all expenses from banks everywhere. People that are not major traders that get mysterious sums of money will be investigated, duh!

Now, if they were to take these people and ask where they got the money, what would they say? Fearing having the money removed - money they need to feed their families, they need to squeal and then they will root them out, yes? Or...

They could easily offer more jobs to people that will let them protest! This could be funded by the west for a fraction of the price of running a war and allow people that naturally do not want to get involved with this 'murderous stuff' they could easily allow them to slate the west as much as they want - legally. The parents would encourage someone they see going into this 'frame of mind' as being encouraged to join this rather than die for nothing - the west will not be destroyed... ever [they breed like flies they could tell them!]. ]]> Current Events Charlatan http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/who-funding-world-terror-huh-7349.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/ending-these-south-african-strikes-yeah-7346.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:50:12 GMT There are strikes that have been going on for weeks now, nearly crippling the economy. The obvious thing is that they want more money, yes?

This would set the state back quite a bit, but the cost of living must be going up because otherwise they would not be doing this. The state sits and barks orders and the people need to be paid. They are not asking for a great sum, but rather a eight percent increase. With all the lower income in mind, that means another hundred and fifty million rands cost for the state per month, coming to about two billion or so annually.

The state collects taxes at six points so raising or lowering the taxes to twenty percent across the board would mean that they gross one hundred and twenty percent of what they pay out each year or month. This means that with a small amount of state loans they will be able to start actually repaying them at about ten percent or so, overcoming their debts slowly, or they could just sell land for development around the cities or outlying suburbs, bringing more tax in along with absolute capital income where they will be able to just pay off the loans they have themselves, yes?

Adjust taxes, remember that the more money you dish out the more you make back through re numerating your own currency, and voila, already you are all set!

The problem is the pessimism after the 'recession'. The recession was not caused by some housing bollocks in the states, it was lack of lending between banks where the money did not grow in confidence and pledges nor interests. This led to a gradual demise before a head long plunge as the markets 'tried to hang onto the edge of the cliff', and then it was like what a mess the dog where they really didn't know what to do so got their money out investing in the biggest banks, leading to even less cooperation between banks, and when one person has all the money in a city there can be no trade unless there is resources, and that is at an all time low at a ratio of people per resources - again, lack of development!

Now, to get out of this rut we must be able to produce metals and oil artificially. Bio fuels does half of this, so with my theory of compressing sand and heating it to age it, we get metals - continued use will make gold of course, but that is outdated! Who uses jewels for their currency, it should be assets, meaning, the more assets you have the more your currency is worth, yes? If you produce a car or house, for example, it is an asset of the owner and the state, raising the state's own currency value too. More you make, more jobs, more capital, more investments... Hey yeah we going to have a party, yes?

I hope that takes care of all strikes, easily accomadated with my own plan that took about a month to fully form. Has anyone got any complaints? ]]> Current Events Charlatan http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/ending-these-south-african-strikes-yeah-7346.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/eta-7345.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:24:07 GMT Basque separatists ETA announce cease fire - World news - Europe - msnbc.com

This faction is potentially a threat to the well being of the people of Spain and France mostly. They want a separate state, so, they need to win elections. They can afford to sell their homes and move to a small village where they can all be 'together', yes? This requires minimal costs and changes in their lives too! Or...

They once, their past leaders that is, to win the people and land over with politics. It is too late now, so they could all just fade into the masses and use their 'passion' to heat 'debates' up so that the logic can get through.

There is no point in killing people for 'attention'. The state either responds or it does not, and always serves the people. The state cannot 'submit'. ]]> Current Events Charlatan http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/eta-7345.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/french-spiderman-arrested-7336.html Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:12:37 GMT French 'Spiderman' arrested after scaling 57-story Sydney skyscraper with his bare hands
(AP) 04:42:02 PM (ET), Tuesday, August 31, 2010 (SYDNEY)
A French skyscraper climber nicknamed "Spiderman" was arrested Monday after scaling a 57-story building in Sydney with his bare hands.

Alain Robert, known for climbing some of the world's tallest and best-known buildings without ropes or other equipment, was arrested at the top of the Lumiere building downtown.

He climbed the building in about 20 minutes, as dozens of people watched from below.

"I'm sad he's been arrested, but hopefully he'll get out soon and we can have some champagne," said his agent, Max Markson.

He was charged with risking the safety of another by climbing a building and entering enclosed land, police said. He was released from custody and ordered to appear in court on Friday.

Many of his past climbs have resulted in arrests and fines. Last year, Robert was fined 750 Australian dollars ($676) for climbing the 41-story Royal Bank of Scotland building in Sydney.

The 48-year-old has climbed more than 70 skyscrapers around the world, including the Empire State Building, the Sears Tower and the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur, according to his website.

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* Doubt this man has radioactive blood. * ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/french-spiderman-arrested-7336.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/detroit-area-juror-faces-contempt-7331.html Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:26:38 GMT Detroit-area juror faces contempt hearing after predicting a guilty verdict on Facebook

(AP) 06:14:22 PM (ET), Monday, August 30, 2010 (MOUNT CLEMENS, Mich.)
A judge removed a juror from a trial in suburban Detroit after the young woman wrote on Facebook that the defendant was guilty. The problem? The trial wasn't over. Hadley Jons, of Warren just north of Detroit, could be found in contempt when she returns to the Macomb County circuit court Thursday.
Jons, 20, was a juror in a case of resisting arrest. On Aug. 11, a day off from the trial and before the prosecution finished its case, she wrote on Facebook that it was "gonna be fun to tell the defendant they're guilty."
The post was discovered by defense lawyer Saleema Sheikh's son.
Circuit Judge Diane Druzinski confronted Jons the next day and replaced her with an alternate.
"You don't know how disturbing this is," Druzinski said, according to The Macomb Daily.
A message seeking comment was left for Jons on Monday.
"I would like to see her get some jail time, nothing major, a few hours or overnight," Sheikh said. "This is the jury system. People need to know how important it is."
Sheikh's son, Jaxon Goodman, discovered the comment while checking jurors' names on the Internet. He works in his mother's law office.
"I'm really proud of him," Sheikh said.
Without Jons, the jury convicted Sheikh's client of a felony but couldn't agree on a separate misdemeanor charge.

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* Any comments ? * ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/detroit-area-juror-faces-contempt-7331.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/arkansas-police-say-6-arrested-after-7330.html Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:19:55 GMT Arkansas police say 6 arrested after brawl, gunfire at baptism party
(AP) 06:15:48 PM (ET), Monday, August 30, 2010 (FORT SMITH, Ark.)
Police said a baptism party where some uninvited guests arrived turned into a brawl that resulted in gunfire. Police were dispatched to the Progressive Men's Club at 2 a.m. Saturday after a caller reported gunfire. Witness Amy Manjarrez told Fort Smith television station KHBS that her uncle was pistol whipped and that others, including her father and a disk jockey, were beaten.
Police said one person fired a gun in the air and then into the crowd, though no one was wounded.
Investigators said six juveniles were arrested. Their names weren't released because of their ages. One youth was charged with aggravated assault. Other charges include curfew violations, marijuana possession and carrying a weapon.
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* These uninvited juveniles are born losers. * :y: ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/arkansas-police-say-6-arrested-after-7330.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/louisiana-pastor-who-shares-name-wanted-7326.html Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:08:34 GMT Louisiana pastor who shares name with wanted Texas criminal mistakenly arrested
(AP) 02:55:58 PM (ET), Sunday, August 29, 2010 (SHREVEPORT, La.)
A series of unfortunate coincidences led to a case of mistaken identity that put a Louisiana minister behind bars for nearly eight hours. Gregory Jones, pastor at Eden Worship Center, was pulled over for speeding and arrested as a man wanted for violating parole in Texas. The minister not only had the same name as the wanted man, but the same birthdate _ and a Texas driver's license. So he wound up handcuffed and taken to a Shreveport jail.
Jones said deputies treated him well and assured him they were checking his claims. A photograph and fingerprint check eventually confirmed he wasn't the wanted man.
Caddo Lt. Don Gibbs said the department was sorry for Jones' inconvenience but committed to ensuring wanted criminals don't accidentally go free.
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* Was this actually a mistake ? * ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/louisiana-pastor-who-shares-name-wanted-7326.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/couple-wonders-if-their-car-7325.html Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:06:22 GMT Couple wonders if their car took vacation after odometer jumps 724 miles at JFK lot
(AP) 05:14:00 PM (ET), Sunday, August 29, 2010 (NEW YORK)
A couple who left their car parked in a long-term lot near Kennedy Airport during a trip to California were trying to figure out what their car has been doing without them. Mimi and Ulrich Gunthart said their car odometer reading jumped by 724 miles while they were out of town. Ulrich Gunthart said he was "flabbergasted" when he saw the number. Another surprise: when they returned to the car and started it up, a music CD came on at full volume.
David Menter, a regional manager for AviStar parking, said the company investigated and looked over inventory logs but "found nothing out of the ordinary."
He said there have been no similar claims by other customers, and the company will be reviewing its procedures.
The Guntharts said the incident won't stop them from parking at the lot again.

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* I was thinking about the mvie "Christine". * ]]> Current Events ash1280 http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/couple-wonders-if-their-car-7325.html http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/2-police-officers-fatally-shot-alaska-7324.html Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:51:00 GMT ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Two police officers were fatally shot in a tiny Native village in southeast Alaska and authorities were in a standoff Sunday with the suspect, local officials said.
Bob Prunella, acting Hoonah city administrator, said officers Tony Wallace and Matt Tokuoka died after the shooting late Saturday. He said he didn't know what led to the shooting.
Tokuoka was off-duty, and he and his wife and two children had left the home of his father-in-law, George Martin, moments before the shooting, Martin said.
Martin said he heard two shots, which were directed at Wallace, who was on-duty. The shots hit Wallace, Martin said.
Tokuoka told his wife and children to get away from the site, and then he was shot as well, Martin said.
"The whole town's in shock," he said. "I've been getting calls all day. It's a bad situation."
Mayor Windy Skaflestad said the suspect, John Marvin Jr., has barricaded himself in his Hoonah home. Skaflestad said a SWAT team was sent from Juneau, 40 miles to the east.
Alaska State Troopers also sent officers to the community of about 800 to assist in the standoff, but spokeswoman Megan Peters said no other information was being released.
Prunella said the deaths leave the Tlingit village with just one officer. He said the town of Wrangell is sending over some officers to help out. ]]> Current Events Doxzur http://www.puretalkforum.com/f66/2-police-officers-fatally-shot-alaska-7324.html